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Post by Star Lily on Aug 8, 2014 21:23:43 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen of Valdarin's Gate. I hereby remove myself from the counsel. There are a lot of changes going on in my life, and I feel that I will not be able to judge fairly, when I can not think straight, or do not know how the changes I am currently facing will effect my life. I have spoken with T'Char and he will be taking my place at the next counsel meeting. So please let me know when the next official meeting is, so I may inform him. Thank you very much.
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Post by bilgerat on Aug 9, 2014 8:13:05 GMT -5
Wait- Bilge think he understand Hobelf's desicive better wait till full hobgolin to make decesion clear. But how you replaced by T'char, does this mean elfs no longer no longer part of town? Me thought elfs made own town?
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Post by jmoy1017 on Aug 9, 2014 9:37:14 GMT -5
Although Although it is sad to see you step down, I can understand how changes could cause a laps in judgment. As for nominating your own second I believe it should be put to a vote or maybe talked with the rest of the council before naming a second. Especially since that second has made it clear he is not part of the town. This is no slight against T’char, but unless he is part of the town I don’t foresee him being put on the council. This is just my opinion being a member of Valdarens gate.
-Kravose
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Post by Star Lily on Aug 9, 2014 10:59:05 GMT -5
I discussed this matter with T'Char before I stepped down, since my second did not want any part of the counsel, he decided to step in. As long as he is part of the mage's guild, which is part of the town, I do not see why he can not sit on the counsel. I sat on it and I am part of "elf town" as well. I live in low town, so does he. I do not see why he should not be able to come in as my second.
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Post by jmoy1017 on Aug 9, 2014 11:22:17 GMT -5
Again, it is not to a matter of he "should not" its the fact that as a council it should be talked about. not just appointing who you see fit.
-Kravose
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Post by Thoradus Copperware on Aug 10, 2014 9:45:35 GMT -5
I though the council members were elected officials. Wouldn't someone resigning their position bring up a new election for that position?
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Post by bilgerat on Aug 10, 2014 9:50:26 GMT -5
Me think Hobelf could have done this better but this do bring up good point- if this for seat of Mage's guild what we do now with guild now that most members are no longer town folk, Copperpots is right there should be vote- but if this for guild and town who get vote?
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Post by Thoradus Copperware on Aug 10, 2014 10:06:30 GMT -5
I no longer know what this conversation is about. Good luck to you all.
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Post by Star Lily on Aug 10, 2014 11:07:33 GMT -5
What Bilge is saying, is now that most of the member's of the mage's guild live in "elf town" who should get to vote for the seat on the mage's guild. Is that right Bilge?
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Post by bilgerat on Aug 10, 2014 23:14:15 GMT -5
Yes hobelf.
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Aug 11, 2014 17:12:23 GMT -5
*sigh* In my own professional opinion, having a council to begin with is well useless. It's better if a town had something that most towns have already. A mayor, or a single individual with order and power. The mayor's second hand, and of course a magistrate to execute orders given by this said mayor. I'm not saying it's best for the town itself but overall I find this method MUCH better than having a group of people that stand or sit together and argue over matters that should of been resolved in seconds. Anyway that's all I think of it.
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hank
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Post by hank on Aug 11, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -5
The Mage's Guild decides who represents the Mage's Guild. The seat on the counsel reserved for a representative for the Mage's Guild is designated to represent the interests of the Mage's Guild not the interests of the town, that is Rakoos' position. The Mage's Guild is an organization which operates without boarders and therefore the citizenship of any particular Guild member is irrelevant when dealing with guild matters, which is what the mage's seat represents...guild matters. If the people of Valderain's Gate wish to determine who may or may not occupy the Mage's Guild seat then that seat does not belong to the Mage's Guild and no member from the Mage's guild will sit upon the counsel.
That being said, Calendria did not "appoint" me to succeed her. She in proper form asked for permission to resign and I informed her that I would sit in her stead until she felt comfortable enough to return to the seat or we, the Mage's Guild, decided upon a permanent replacement.
T'Char, the Traveler Seeker of Lyanna Master of Wands, Valderain's Gate Mage's Guild
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Post by bilgerat on Aug 11, 2014 22:46:39 GMT -5
We tried mayors a couple mayors- thank you for clearing things up T'char you always have good way of doing this
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moroth
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Post by moroth on Aug 13, 2014 15:43:14 GMT -5
T'char when Mugthar and I created the council each seat is selected in different ways, but ultimately all seats represent Valdarin's Gate's best interests and Valadarin's Gate's best interests alone. The Mages Guild seat is not there to simply represent the Mages Guild and the Mages Guild's interests or agenda. Each council seat is responsible for all matters of Valdarin's gate, only difference between council seats is how they are chosen. I trust you will respect and understand this if you are to succeed Hob-Elf's seat until a proper replacement is selected in the sanctuary of the Mages Guild. And as T'char has stated the people of Valdarin's gate have no say in who the Mage's Guild chooses for their council member, just as they have no say in who the Church selects, or who wins trials of combat.
I have no quarrel with T'char taking her seat, and support him in this. He has acted properly and acknowledged a new member must be chosen by the guild at the proper time and manner.
Moroth Hanil-Khar of the Risen Fist
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Post by Thoradus Copperware on Aug 16, 2014 22:20:00 GMT -5
I guess I would ask if this mage seat gets to vote and have say on town issues.
If the person only deals with the council as a connection of the ongoings of the mage's guild without having and say or vote in town matter, it should be fine if the mage's just appoint whomever, as it has no effect on the township.
Of coarse if the mage's seat actually have a vote and say in town issues, that's a completely different thing.
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