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Post by bilgerat on Apr 8, 2015 0:53:19 GMT -5
Bilge is serious as well, Sebastian good friend, but Sebastian did not cause gate to splinter, gate caused gate to splinter. Gate still work though, Gideon dead now because Gate still work. If king want to know of gate he has serving men who tell him. We have royal leader of Devos, Bilge think Sebastian think Gate more broken than really is.
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Post by snowowl on Apr 8, 2015 7:56:47 GMT -5
I have not been in The Gate long, and I do not know the customs of Kraza Thull Orcs. I apologize if this seems to be a foolish idea. When the tribes where I come from were at war, we sent emissaries to settle things. Would these orcs being willing to meet peacefully?
When one wants to tame a wolf, they must gain it's trust.
Perhaps we give them a peace offering or send speakers on The Gate's behalf. Like Bilge I do not wish to see the human with robes the colors of autumn leaves harmed.
Just the simple thoughts of a tribeswoman~ Snow Owl
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Post by tarathielle on Apr 8, 2015 8:58:27 GMT -5
Sebastian, I am somewhat confused by your vehement words. You say that we should be a town together and that there should not be different factions. But, I challenge you to find a community of mixed races and backgrounds (beyond the odd small hamlet of only a few people) where everyone co-mingles and there are no "factions" or cliques.
It is in the nature of all races and peoples to feel more comfortable in the presence of people like themselves. This is often because of shared morals and viewpoints. An orc would feel better to be around others who like physical challenges and strong arms over philosophical debate and quick witted words. A dwarf would feel more at home with those who value precious metals, gems, and other items of craftsmanship than they would with Hobgoblins who enjoy fighting or with Elves who enjoy fine wines and works of art. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. But, they are just that; exceptions.
In fact, Valdarin's Gate is almost a mirror of our own fair kingdom. Many of the provinces are populated by one or two races with only a smattering of other races. Would you ask the provinces to stop being divided into Provinces just because they are part of the same kingdom? Would you ask the Dwarves of Drägrim Thel to hold the same principles as the Goblins of Tog? Try it and let me know how well you do.
The entire purpose of a town or community of any size is that, when a larger issue or threat comes along, we stand together. As we have proven time and again, we have come to each others aid, regardless of our many differences and arguments. In such a diverse population as we have here, the odd squabble or fight is to be expected. If you want a united town where no one is unhappy and everyone gets along, you might want to read a tale or two, for that will likely only happen in fantasy.
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Post by moroth on Apr 8, 2015 12:57:08 GMT -5
Bilge is right we do intend to make our lives better then the squalor that we find thrust upon us now, But this is not only for orcs goblins and hobgoblins all who find themselves oppressed, thrust down into the mud to be kept as nothing more than vermin are welcome.If only they have the courage to realize it and the strength to speak out.The Risen Fist will honor its treaty pledge to stand side by side as equals with Valdarin's Gate.Against those that would invade your territory, To kill and slaughter your people. King Teros Montell holds the gate in rebellion, Not because you took up arms against him but because you didn't lay down and die to his attack dogs. We will help you repeal this invading tyrant and his oppressive slave drivers that he calls nobles.It is not for their gain a loan that you should toil and be discarded at their pleasure as nothing more than trash.
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Post by Shallowmoore on Apr 8, 2015 16:59:23 GMT -5
Dear Sebastian,
Last Fall Valdarin's Gate saw a huge step forward in healing the town when Viscount Devos helped bring Ostar Sidhe and Valdarin's Gate to some modicum of an understanding and two were fully reunited in a political sense. There are however still a number of hurdles to be overcome when healing the hurt pride and ending the grudges some people still hold. Given time and careful talk I'm certain that things can be rectified.
That being said, Tarathielle's letter holds much wisdom. There will always be disagreement, there will always be a difference in approaches, and there will always be people who want to do things their own way. It is my belief that this diversity can be a strength of our community as long as we don't take these disagreements personally.
Sebastian, I admire your spirit and dedication to the unity of the town, but I'm afraid that such energy should spent carefully. To survive in Valdarin's Gate takes a certain amount of willfulness. Try to tell a willful person that they are wrong and what happens? Their pride is hurt. Simply telling people to overcome their differences does not work, especially if you tell them really hard. Instead of simply insisting that people get along you could do two things. First, you could find people who still have grudges and solve those individual problems. Second, you could help tamp down and weed out gossip. Baseless gossip has often been the reason for shouting matches and miscommunication that have fueled mistrust again and again.
At Your Service, Alan Shallowmoore
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Apr 18, 2015 15:17:06 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows, it has actually come to my attention that not all of you are aware of our history, the Provinces that are allied with King Montel as well as his allies that not only are his champions but the veterans that fought against the Lord of Shadows back during the Dark Years. Why some people seek to rebel against his Majesty is beyond me for he has done nothing more but help us when possible and even now seeks for a way to either destroy or keep the Lord of Shadows Imprison.
Snow if I recall that is your name not trying to insult you but it is common knowledge to know the Province leaders as well as the lands they rule. However something like this is not uncommon as I have found many others that lack this simple knowledge. Next gathering those who have questions or wish to learn the History of Kyranthia itself I suggest you come and find me.
As for the people that wish to fight against his royal Majesty I suppose I could understand your "Frustrations" but until a new law is formed we are not a democratic town. We do not choose our leaders, we do not pick our power heads, and of course we do not question the Nobles that the King has chosen. If however there is a corruptible power within this noble chain then it must be purified another way. claiming that you wish to fight against his majesty only feeds this corruption and lives will be lost within the gate if it is continued. For now I wish for all of you to turn your heads into perhaps investigating the strange town murders of the man, women, or creature that has murdered several citizens. You all know of whom I speak the murderer that carves numbers into his victim's heads. I would much prefer we place a little more of our time into that before we lose someone more close to us.
Lastly If anyone and I truly mean anyone has any questions regarding: History, Lore, Creatures, Places, and so on please by any and all means come talk to me.
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Post by bilgerat on Apr 18, 2015 23:19:03 GMT -5
Bilge will take that offer next time we can gather, a lot of what you say confuse what Bilge thought me knew, like me thought Throck was 16 years of age, how could he also be Shadow War Veteran? Bilge would like to know more of this.
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Post by Vallon Cromwell on Apr 18, 2015 23:46:10 GMT -5
Not only what Bilge has said, but the provinces aren't 'allied' with anyone. They are completely subordinate to the King. Kyranthia is one Kingdom, with one ruler.
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Apr 19, 2015 0:53:42 GMT -5
Kyranthia is not just a Kingdom considering how massive it is Aegerius is the main Kingdom you may be thinking of. That of which his Majesty resides, also the Provinces are to some degree allied to his Majesty, history literally states King Montel gathering all the Province leaders together to help imprison the Lord of Shadows I can't imagine them not having some connection of loyalty to his Royal Majesty. BUT Bildge you are correct Throck has been alive for Sixteen years I presume there was a leader before Throck during the Dark years. So allow me to rephrase what i said earlier that Throck is not a Veteran my mistake but perhaps an ancestor of him is.
((OOG it says Kyranthia is a kingdom and the world so i'm going to look into that more to verify for certain XD))
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Post by Vallon Cromwell on Apr 19, 2015 1:21:44 GMT -5
Aegerius is the 'province' where the King resides, the provinces together make up the Kingdom. Using the word 'allied' implies some level of equivalence or choice in the matter, which isn't the case. Teros Montel rules as King over all, he has no equals, only subjects.
Also, Throck Vul Doon likely had a dozen serve as Lord Protector before him.
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Apr 19, 2015 1:32:31 GMT -5
Huh, you actually got me there I'll need to refresh my memory on this I had a different image in mind. Though still, what I said earlier is true. There are quite a few people that have little idea about the History of this Kingdom. I feel it is only fair to educate them. Thank you my kind sir for in a way correcting my statement, it would have been greatly embarrassing if I were to have taught others on what I previously thought.
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Post by moroth on Apr 19, 2015 22:49:29 GMT -5
How can our esteemed master of cups, not know his own fields of knowledge which he States so many times over and over that he is a Master, second to none? unless this is an elaborate ruse. so that the ignorant can stay as sheep ready to be slaughtered. perhaps this was and ill conceived disinformation attempt, by the tyrant king to spread confusion in those that have cause and his own less learned people that cling to his every word because they don't know any better.....how much silver did it take leather face for you to put aside your own standards for one that tried to have you and your family slain?
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Apr 20, 2015 15:35:54 GMT -5
I smell Paranoia, odd for a Hobgoblin to show, in any case it was a simple mistake on my part as I have stated before people, hobgoblins, Orcs, Elves and so on make mistakes. Just to ease your mind this isn't a ruse, no in fact I have my own goals set. Oh and as for that little bribe babble you were speaking of let me clarify that I wasn't paid to do anything I simply make my own choices. Also know that my name isn't Leather face, it's Xavius if you truly wish to call me by this then perhaps I should start calling you Ramskull? Lastly my family is well and alive no one thus far has actually attempted to murder them.
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Post by moroth on Apr 22, 2015 12:00:27 GMT -5
I don't know who you were trying to convince me or yourself? I'm not going to hold your hand and guide you through these times for you. if you don't know what I was talking about that's not my loss.I was getting angry at you,but then you showed me that you are funny Ramskull haha its funny that you would think that that would be an insult to me. I know full well what your name is I didn't use it because you didn't show that you deserve it leatherface.you want respect earn it,no one is just giving it from me.
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Post by Xavius Ravencroft on Apr 22, 2015 18:50:53 GMT -5
I think it would be better to halt this conversation. Regardless if I insulted you or not I will apologize seeing that I'm not the usual type to discriminate others. With that said I'm happy to hear you like that Nickname I suppose it was supposed to be insulting to an extent mostly because I found being called Leather face consistently was insulting. Anger, frustration, so on and so forth In any case let me formally apologize for my "childish" behavior since I interpreted what you said incorrectly. I apologize for my harsh words even if you found them to be funny or not Is till hold responsibility for what I say. I do hope we can still be friends I enjoy your company more so then most Moroth. But I do wish to earn some respect from you so if you wish to talk with me privately about well what ever you want let me know. I will be more than happy to have a friendly conversation with you.
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